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RPF - just stop doing it.
that_khyber
Edit: And this is why I wasn't gonna do this. Comments have been locked, I didn't mean to make previous comments invisible, though. If someone can tell me how to lock comments while still showing existing ones please do.

Edit 2: Okay, I'm "screening" comments but I'm just going to not post them. That works.

I said I wasn't gonna do this whole getting-involved-in-LJ-discussions thing, and I haven't the background or vocabulary to do lit-crit.

So, instead of trying to lay out some sort of incrementalist argument,  I'm retreating to my gut feeling, which I admit is a conservative tendency in itself, and raising the old atxc flag of complete intolerance for RPF (there, I've admitted I'm being conservative AND intolerant.)

I read RPF, and I go "hmm... nope. I believe there are things that are objectively wrong. This is one of them, in a small yet spiritually corrosive way, and people should be actively discouraged from doing it."

So I'm discouraging anyone who may be reading this. Please, just stop. If you write good RPF I'm sure you could write better fanfic, stories that wouldn't devalue human identity and incidentally wouldn't creep me out so very, very much.

Maybe I'm too old, maybe I'm culturally too old (more likely), maybe I haven't absorbed enough Noughties celebrity culture to allow myself to dehumanize and abstract another human being into a projection surface simply because they have a public identity.

Jesus Christ, writing porn about Duchovny and his wife? How the fuck is that not wrong?

It's not a very nuanced or maybe even very informed opinion, but it's the one I've got.

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I'm going to wade in here, mostly because I'm so fond of emily_shore, but also because I've been writing RPF myself, in the biographical sense, about Wordsworth & Coleridge. Is it the sex that makes RPF creepy? As has been said, I'm writing about these two to 'humanize' them in my mind. They never had sex, but they collaborated on an intensely cerebral level. By interacting with them, I feel that I'm bringing them back to life.

I admit I have to look the other way when it comes to RPF about live people.

I'd say it's not just the sex, but... like I said, I don't want to try to make an incrementalist argument within the fanfic realm, i.e. a story where Chris Carter joins the Consortium is silly but green-light, a story about Mulder and Scully watching "Straightheads" is yellow-light, and a story about David Duchovny banging his sex therapist is red-light. Just, fuck it, can you honestly not think of something else to write?

As well, Penumbra, you kind of summed it up yourself right there. Anybody who wants to try to equate a work about the relationship of two decades-dead authors with a 1000-word smut spurt about a live actor and his live wife, or two live actors, is just being willfully silly.

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Dead people are fair game.

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